Comments on: MentorNet #65 – Working the Personnel, Not The Principles http://acquirewisdom.com/mentornet/mentornet-65-working-the-personnel-not-the-principles/ Wisdom in church planting, culture, and bi-vocational ministry... Thu, 27 Oct 2011 03:20:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: David Watson http://acquirewisdom.com/mentornet/mentornet-65-working-the-personnel-not-the-principles/comment-page-1/#comment-317 David Watson Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:50:37 +0000 http://acquirewisdom.com/mentornet/mentornet-65-working-the-personnel-not-the-principles/#comment-317 Hi, Ed. Thanks for the mention in your list of CPM practitioners, strategists, researchers and observers. Another person you may want to add to your list is Steve Addison, who just published "Movements That Change the World." I highly recommend this book to those who wish to understand movements from a historical and practical perspective. I do track the CPMs I directly relate to globally. In the past 4 years the teams that I relate to have started more than 100 CPMs, which we define as 100 churches in two years at least 3 generations deep. By "relate to" I mean teams we support with strategy and training. I travel all over the world assisting organizations in developing their church planting strategies and equipping their strategists and church planters. I have the great privilege of seeing God at work in all kinds of situations that are mostly unknown to the general Christian public. You are absolutely right about principles. Principles have no value without intensive and on-going equipping of personnel. We have found that it requires 5-7 exposures and lots of encouragement for new practitioners of CPM friendly church planting to develop. People who have never started a church of any kind have more trouble than those who have started churches. Those who think church planting is about buildings and programs rarely get it and reject CPM as not working. The center of all we do is obedience based discipleship that requires disciples to make more disciples, leaders to make more leaders, and groups of all kinds to reproduce in every segment of society that God reveals to His disciples, leaders, and groups. Blessings! David Watson from Rwanda Hi, Ed. Thanks for the mention in your list of CPM practitioners, strategists, researchers and observers. Another person you may want to add to your list is Steve Addison, who just published “Movements That Change the World.” I highly recommend this book to those who wish to understand movements from a historical and practical perspective.

I do track the CPMs I directly relate to globally. In the past 4 years the teams that I relate to have started more than 100 CPMs, which we define as 100 churches in two years at least 3 generations deep. By “relate to” I mean teams we support with strategy and training.

I travel all over the world assisting organizations in developing their church planting strategies and equipping their strategists and church planters. I have the great privilege of seeing God at work in all kinds of situations that are mostly unknown to the general Christian public.

You are absolutely right about principles. Principles have no value without intensive and on-going equipping of personnel. We have found that it requires 5-7 exposures and lots of encouragement for new practitioners of CPM friendly church planting to develop. People who have never started a church of any kind have more trouble than those who have started churches. Those who think church planting is about buildings and programs rarely get it and reject CPM as not working.

The center of all we do is obedience based discipleship that requires disciples to make more disciples, leaders to make more leaders, and groups of all kinds to reproduce in every segment of society that God reveals to His disciples, leaders, and groups.

Blessings!

David Watson
from Rwanda

]]> By: Ed http://acquirewisdom.com/mentornet/mentornet-65-working-the-personnel-not-the-principles/comment-page-1/#comment-313 Ed Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:06:45 +0000 http://acquirewisdom.com/mentornet/mentornet-65-working-the-personnel-not-the-principles/#comment-313 <p>Hi Elsie,</p> <p>The case studies are provided by the authors listed in the first paragraph.</p> <p>Patterson - Church Multiplication Guide Schwartz - Natural Church Development Neumann - Home Groups For Urban Cultures Chaudhrie - Church In Your House Garrison - Church Planting Movements Watson - http://www.davidlwatson.org</p> <p>Thanks for the question!</p> <p>Blessings,</p> <p>Ed</p> <p> </p> Hi Elsie,

The case studies are provided by the authors listed in the first paragraph.

Patterson – Church Multiplication Guide
Schwartz – Natural Church Development
Neumann – Home Groups For Urban Cultures
Chaudhrie – Church In Your House
Garrison – Church Planting Movements
Watson – http://www.davidlwatson.org

Thanks for the question!

Blessings,

Ed

 

]]> By: Elsie Chan http://acquirewisdom.com/mentornet/mentornet-65-working-the-personnel-not-the-principles/comment-page-1/#comment-312 Elsie Chan Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:14:28 +0000 http://acquirewisdom.com/mentornet/mentornet-65-working-the-personnel-not-the-principles/#comment-312 How about adding a case study to illustrate your points? How about adding a case study to illustrate your points?

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